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22nd Nov 2022

Create a Healthy Love Life After Divorce in Minnesota and Beyond

In today’s episode, we are joined by Clinical Psychologist and Psychoanalyst Dr. Thomas Jordan. Dr. Thomas Jordan has spent over thirty years studying love relationships. He talks with us about what it looks like to replicate the relationships each individual sees growing up and how those relationships carry over into adulthood. We talk about the process of getting conscious of the unhealthy factors in relationships that individuals face and how to turn those into healthy aspects for future relationships. Tune in today to hear how to become conscious about your programming and create a healthy love life.

In this episode:

[1:10] Dr. Thomas Jordan tells us what led him to study love relationships. [2:56] What is unconscious learning? [6:43] What is a disappointing love life? [12:13] Dr. Thomas Jordan talks about the replication process - emotion and physical attributes. [16:02] Getting unfamiliar is uncomfortable and can be anxiety-producing. [18:19] How do people recreate the experiences that have been unhealthy in their life? [20:53] How is re-creation done? [25:22] How can becoming conscious about your programming help in marriage also?

Key Takeaways:

Once you become conscious of the things you learned as a child, you can unlearn the items that no longer feel healthy and change your ways. What we have learned becomes a belief, which is what we look for in relationships. This all happens subconsciously. Until you become aware, this is the path that you will follow. Going through a divorce opens up the opportunity to get curious about your past relationships, uncover what you’ve been repeating, and re-create what you want your love life to look like.

Quotes:

“We can do something about the type of relationship we set up when we fall in love. The relationship we set up, healthy or unhealthy, is what contains that love and grows it. If you set up a healthy relationship, fine; there's a good chance the love will last a lifetime. If you set up an unhealthy relationship, then there can be problems because the relationship in and of itself can stifle the love that you're experiencing, and I believe that's what happens with a divorce.” - Dr. Thomas Jordan

“We have the wonderful ability to challenge things we’ve learned, challenge habits, challenge things we’re used to, challenge what we’re familiar with.” - Dr. Thomas Jordan

“You’re the person that creates your own love life experience.” - Dr. Thomas Jordan

Resources:

Lesa Koski Website

Lesa’s Online Courses

Love Life Learning Center

Learn to Love Book

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Doing Life Different with Lesa Koski
Real conversations for women over 40 about faith, fitness, and fresh starts
Mindset, movement, and faith after 40—because midlife isn’t a crisis, it’s your comeback.

Welcome to Doing Life Different with Lesa Koski, the podcast for women over 40 who are ready to rewrite the rules, reclaim their joy, and rediscover their purpose. Whether you're navigating divorce, rediscovering your health, deepening your faith, or learning how to have fun again—you’re in the right place.

Host Lesa Koski—wife, mom, coach, and seasoned mediator—brings real talk, relatable wisdom, and expert interviews to guide you through midlife reinvention with grace and grit.

In each episode, you’ll get practical tools and empowering conversations on:

Mindset & personal growth

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Divorce, marriage & relationships

Fun, purpose & starting fresh in the second half of life

This isn’t just self-help. It’s soul-level transformation. Get ready to do life different—because your next chapter starts now.

Lesa also explores the emotional and physical changes that often accompany midlife and major life shifts. From navigating the impact of menopause on your health, marriage, and mood, to dealing with the loneliness that can come after divorce or empty nesting, you’ll find honest conversations that don’t shy away from real-life challenges. And for those of you in your 40s, 50s, or beyond, you’ll discover what it means to truly build a better life after 40.

Health and wellness are deeply integrated into this journey. Lesa shares insights on the benefits of rest, joy, nutrition, fasting, protein, and bone health, along with the power of movement, community, and exercise to support mental clarity and physical strength. You’ll learn how to take care of yourself with intention—because healing isn’t just emotional, it’s also biological.

Mindset work and self-coaching are recurring tools offered in episodes to help you reframe your story and shift from fear to freedom. And through it all, the show honors the role of faith, spiritual surrender, and letting God lead you through every season. Whether you're leaning into your relationship with God for the first time or deepening a lifelong practice, you’ll hear how surrender can bring peace even in the hardest moments.

You’ll hear real stories from people who have done divorce differently, saved their marriages, or found new love and purpose on the other side. Lesa also brings in conversations about marriages that have stood the test of time, co-parenting through complex seasons, and the realities of parenting after separation while maintaining stability for your kids.

This is a podcast about thriving through Cancer, taking back your life, rewriting your future, and trusting that you’re not starting over, you’re starting better. If you’re craving practical advice, soul-level encouragement, and real conversations about creating a healthy, joyful, purpose-driven life, you’ve found your community.

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About the Host:
I’ve spent over 25 years helping families navigate amicable divorce as a lawyer and mediator, always focused on protecting what matters most—your kids and your peace of mind. But my mission has expanded. Today, I support women over 40 not just through endings, but in building stronger relationships—and sometimes even saving their marriages. I’m a breast cancer survivor, a cowgirl at heart, a wellness advocate, and a follower of Jesus. My life and faith fuel my passion for helping women thrive.

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