Forgiveness After 40: How Letting Go Heals Your Heart, Body & Faith
Forgiveness After 40: How Letting Go Heals Your Heart, Body & Faith
Episode Description
Forgiveness after 40 can unlock emotional healing, peace, and renewed faith. In this heartfelt holiday episode, Lesa Koski shares how forgiveness changed her life and helped her release anger, anxiety, and judgment. Through personal stories, faith-based reflection, and practical steps, this episode explores forgiveness as a path to healing—not for others, but for yourself. If you’re navigating divorce, grief, or emotional wounds in midlife, this conversation will help you reconnect with God, reclaim joy, and move forward lighter and freer.
(Primary keyword: forgiveness after 40 — used naturally throughout)
Timestamps
(00:00) Holiday reflections, grief, and why forgiveness matters
(04:15) Lessons learned through chaos and childhood stories
(10:40) Teaching through stories instead of advice
(16:05) Why forgiveness accelerates healing and growth
(20:50) Core wounds, stillness, and listening for God
(27:30) A faith-based practice for forgiveness and release
(35:10) Letting God judge instead of carrying anger
(41:45) Forgiveness, health, and emotional freedom
(48:20) Forgiving without an apology and finding peace
(55:30) Closing reflections and holiday blessing
Key Takeaways
- Forgiveness is a healing practice that frees you, not the other person
- Stillness and prayer help create space to hear God clearly
- You don’t need an apology to forgive and move forward
- Carrying anger can impact emotional and physical health
- Forgiveness opens the door to greater joy, peace, and faith
Guest Bio
Lesa Koski is a family law attorney turned mediator, life coach, and host of Doing Life Different. She supports women over 40 navigating divorce, faith, forgiveness, and midlife reinvention with clarity, compassion, and grounded wisdom.
Resource Links
- Core Wounds Course: JJ Flizanes – https://jjflizanes.com/lesa
- Sign up for Lesa’s Newsletter: https://enchanting-basil-714.myflodesk.com/qwzridafyj
- Lesa’s Ebook: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0G4B2ZY1W?ref=yb_qv_ov_kndl_dp_rw
- Podcast Episode Mentioned: Andy Bull interview on forgiveness and healing (search within the show archive)
- Andi Bull's episode: https://player.captivate.fm/episode/e87157ca-599f-4155-9b7e-3d577d1ee81d/
- Join my Divorce Clarity community!
Tags / Keywords
forgiveness after 40, forgiveness and faith, healing after divorce, midlife forgiveness, emotional healing, Christian forgiveness, letting go of anger, core wounds healing, faith and mindset, women over 40, doing life different
Transcript
Welcome friends and listeners.
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:I am happy as can be that you're
here and it is the holiday week.
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:We've got Christmas coming up this
week and I'm so excited and I know
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:there are people that get excited
about it and there's a little sadness
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:and they, you know, we think about.
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:The loved ones we lost, and I wanna
be here for you this week and I
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:wanna talk to you about forgiveness.
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:So I'm gonna go all into something
I did to help me forgive that.
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:I'm still learning, but it
truly did change my life.
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:But before I go there, I was kind
of pushed this morning to, to do a
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:little more work on my book and I'm
kind of in that editing stage, which,
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:oh, I think it might take forever.
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:But, um, the story that I was looking
at and kind of the lesson that I
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:learned, it's kind of about the things
we learn through the chaos of life.
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:Uh, I was reading a story.
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:From my childhood and I thought, oh,
this is so interesting because I was
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:always this person that wanted to
tell you how to do something, or my
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:friends or my family, like I just
wanted you to know what I learned.
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:And I wanted to really
like, share it with you.
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:And then, you know, we all know that
can be a little bit annoying, like if
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:you are eating a buttercup or a scone
and I start to tell you about sugar and
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:carbohydrates and metabolic fitness.
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:So it's hard.
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:It's a, it's a hard, um, thing to.
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:Sort out and to juggle so that people,
so that I can share what I've learned,
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:but not inundate you with the lessons.
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:So sometimes stories help.
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:So this is cute.
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:This is from my childhood.
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:I will never forget my brother, my
big brother Dave, had a Honda 70,
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:and I thought it looked so cool.
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:I don't know how old I was, maybe
nine or maybe not even nine.
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:And my dad had a motorcycle and,
and they were, but we had all these
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:trails to go dirt biking in our,
our house in Afton, Minnesota.
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:It's a great place to grow up.
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:And so my brother, my big brother,
was gonna upgrade to a new Kawasaki,
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:something that was bigger and faster.
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:And I'm like, I want the Honda 70.
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:I want it.
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:Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I
think I had a banana seat bike
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:that you pushed back on the brakes.
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:We get to the top of this big hill in
the gravel yard and that's where they
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:set me on this Honda 70 Brother Dad.
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:Go screaming down the hill.
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:Nobody tells me anything about
hand brakes, about clutches.
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:I take off down the hill and crashed.
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:Now, thankfully, no one was hurt.
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:Right?
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:But I had no idea.
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:I had no idea.
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:I just went screaming down
that hill and nobody told me.
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:I thought maybe I'd push back on
something and the brake would work.
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:It was just like fly by the
seat of your pants and learn.
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:And you know what?
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:That is one way to learn.
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:Right.
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:And then I compare that to my mom
who like would teach me, we had that
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:comet, you know, for your sinks.
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:There wasn't that soft scrub.
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:And she'd, she'd say, you gotta
put a little elbow grease into it.
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:Or like, if we were washing the car
or something and she'd like, show me.
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:She'd show me step by step how to do it
not as exciting and not as not so scary.
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:So I started thinking about my life and
how, and I don't wanna be stereotypical
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:because it could be different, and
I think I see it different in my
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:children where maybe my son might
be a little bit more safe and his
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:wife might be a little more daring.
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:So I'm not saying that, but in my
family, like I remember my hubby, um.
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:You know, like I'd be racing along the
bike and he'd shove 'em and go, they'll
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:fi they're, they'll figure it out, you
know, and he'd push him on the bike.
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:And then one time we were in this,
the grocery store and we had my
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:little jack who kind of was a
mama's boy and wanted to be by me.
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:So I was always really
careful that he wasn't afraid.
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:And he always knew that I was near him.
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:Well then my, he was
with my hubby and I was.
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:Like running around.
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:I think we were actually in a target,
and all of a sudden I see my husband down
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:one aisle and Jack's alone in an aisle.
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:And I'm like, what are you doing?
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:He's gonna be terrified because he
did, he was looking at something, he
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:didn't realize his, his dad was gone.
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:And him, my husband said, well, I figured
that's good for him to get a little scared
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:and know that I'm around the corner.
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:And I was like, oh.
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:So different styles, right?
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:Different styles.
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:Still learning.
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:Still doing the learning.
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:And so what I thought when I saw
that story today, I was like, and
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:was trying to fit it into my book.
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:I was like, okay, that's how I
wanna teach somewhere in the middle.
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:I wanna share with you what I've
learned through my heart, things
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:so that you can move forward.
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:I don't want you to go screaming
down the hill with nothing.
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:And yet, I don't wanna be so annoyingly
telling you what to do either.
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:So I wanna just hold your hand and
what I want you to know is if you are
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:like 40 and above and thinking about
divorce or going through something hard,
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:like divorce, I now have a community
of women that's starting in January.
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:It's only $47 a month, and you
get to meet with me for one
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:hour and be in a safe community.
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:That where we talk through
you, we talk through mindset.
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:It's gonna be a positive setting.
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:We learn, um, I do coaching.
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:You can ask me little questions,
I can give you legal information.
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:I never give legal advice and it's
not therapy, but it's there for you.
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:And I just wanted to offer that
to help women, um, who are going
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:through something hard like divorce.
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:My heart wasn't.
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:Divorce.
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:I know.
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:Divorce well, because I've worked in it.
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:My heart, of course, if you've listened
to this podcast, was not, not the divorce,
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:but there were other really hard things.
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:So that's my, that is just
a little gift to you to tell
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:you how I want to teach you.
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:Send me a note and let me know
if I'm doing it right or if I'm
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:being annoying, because what I want
to share today is so important.
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:I see it all around me and it's about
forgiveness and um, it's so interesting
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:how me going through something hard made,
it was a good thing to go through because
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:it made me wanna grow and it made, it
really turned up the speed on my growth.
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:And part of that growth is I
wanna feel more joy and part
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:of being able to feel more joy.
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:Was me being able to forgive.
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:And isn't it interesting because I'm
not, I don't have this down pat, but I
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:want you to know that I am learning and
I wanna walk you through how I did it.
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:I, you know, I'm a Christian and so
this, when I talk, I talk about God, and
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:so I just want you to be aware of that.
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:I think it can help you, you
know, no matter what you believe.
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:So this is how I learned to
forgive and it took going through
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:like what are my core wounds?
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:And just so you know, JJ
Zain has a great course.
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:It's in my show notes.
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:If you have core wounds that need
healing, it's a great place to start.
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:That's where I started.
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:But you have these wounds that hurt you.
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:And what I learned was I needed
to sit down and be quiet.
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:And I talk about stillness all
the time because stillness has
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:taught me an immense amount.
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:So I sit and I'd be quiet, and then
I bring myself to a moment, a spot.
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:You know, a moment in time, a
place where I felt tremendous love.
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:Sometimes I just, like, if I'm one
of 'em is in my garden and I will
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:just, the sun is shining on me and
I'm on my bench and I feel God's love.
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:A lot of times it's holding a baby.
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:You know, it can be your wedding day.
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:It can, it can be all those things.
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:I want you to go there and
I want you to be there.
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:And feel it.
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:And then you go, okay,
where is God in this?
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:That is the way that I have learned
how to connect with God if I wanna
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:hear him, if I'm on, you know, if I
just, and if I wanna thank him for
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:things, that's my best place to connect.
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:And I, I don't know if it's meditation,
I need to start doing that too.
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:We'll talk about that another
time, but that's where I go.
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:So when I had to forgive someone.
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:What I learned is I had to sit
with God and I had to tell God all
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:the things they did wrong to me.
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:I had to say.
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:You know, this was wrong and they, and
this person did this to me and this was
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:wrong, and this person did this to me.
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:And you know, it's funny friends,
how sometimes, um, like it's hard.
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:Like you don't want to, like,
you feel like you're ratting out
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:someone, and it could be someone
that you really care about that.
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:That screwed you up.
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:But what I want you to remember
is you have to say it and
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:you have to give it to God.
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:You wanna know why?
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:'cause God loves that person.
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:God loves that person.
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:So that in itself was a weird thing.
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:Kind of uncomfortable.
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:Try it and let me know how it was for you.
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:It was kind of hard to
say the wrong things.
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:I don't know if I'm fighting,
like I don't wanna be a victim.
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:I don't wanna go there.
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:Go there, go there once, go there
once, tell God what they did and
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:then I handed it over to him.
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:And I said, okay, you are
the god of this universe.
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:I hand this to you to judge.
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:It's up.
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:It's God, it's up to him.
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:It's his, it's none of my
business how he handles it.
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:If he disciplines, whatever it is,
I hand it off to him and I know
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:that he's a loving father, and
so that whatever happens, I don't
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:have to be afraid for that person.
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:I don't know if I'm doing this justice,
but doing that for something really big
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:in my life that hurt me, redeemed me.
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:Giving it to God changed my life.
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:The anger went away and, and in this
situation, the person's still in my life.
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:Sometimes that isn't always the case.
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:Sometimes it could be someone who's passed
and you still need that forgiveness.
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:I know.
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:Um, I had a good friend, Andy
Bull, and you can go back
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:and listen to that podcast.
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:She's amazing.
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:Um, she's an author and she
wrote about her father and
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:abuse, and I'm gonna, I'll put.
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:That in the podcast notes too, so
you can go listen to it if you want.
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:But she explained kind of in the
beginning of the book how she
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:learned how to forgive her father
for, I don't know if he exactly.
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:Did the abuse or if he didn't protect
her from it, if he knew about it and
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:didn't protect, I can't remember for
sure, but she said that she had done
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:the work and forgave him, and she did on
his deathbed, they were United reunited
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:and he told her that he was sorry.
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:And she said it was so interesting
because she said, I didn't need
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:him to say he was sorry anymore.
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:And that's the thing
that's so healing you guys.
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:That's what can heal our bodies.
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:Like when I see someone who's going
through something where they're
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:carrying a lot of anger because
someone did something wrong to 'em,
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:and people do things that are wrong.
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:I've hurt people, I've hurt my
husband, I've hurt my children,
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:and I need to be forgiven.
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:And they, and it, and the
thing is, is if you carry that.
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:It really, truly can cause cancers
and, and it can cause autoimmune
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:issues, heart issues, like it is
something that we want to be able to
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:forgive, not for the other person as
kind of has nothing to do with them.
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:It's for your own wellbeing
and healing and joy.
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:And so Andy explained that to me.
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:That was kind of the first light bulb mo
moment where she said, when she realized.
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:That she didn't need her dad to say
he was sorry because she had already
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:worked through all of it and forgiven
him before he said he was sorry.
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:And I think when I was younger,
I'd be like, well, they have to
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:say they're sorry to be forgiven.
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:No, that's not true because it's for you.
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:So I just want you to know it has changed
my life and I'm not perfect at it.
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:I'm still really working on it.
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:And, um.
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:What I will do is throughout the
day and even the, the judging
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:thing, ugh, I'm horrible at that.
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:I judge myself and others, and so now
anytime I get a little worry or anxiety
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:or I think, oh, that wasn't right, that
that person did that, I say a little
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:prayer for 'em and I hand it over to God.
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:I mean, I'm not doing it all
the time, but I'm working on it.
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:I'm trying to.
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:My life keeps getting better, folks.
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:My life keeps getting better, and
that is not a lie, and that is
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:why I have shared this with you.
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:So if there is someone in your
life, if there is a hurt in your
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:heart, first of all, from way back
in, you don't even know what it is.
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:Do that core wounds course with JJ Zaine.
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:Figure out what it is.
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:Look at who you need to forgive and
get to your special spot with God and
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:hand it over to the God of the universe
because he is the one who is able.
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:Judge, he is the one
who should be doing it.
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:It's not up to us.
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:And you can hand it over.
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:You say out loud what they did
to you, hand it over and move on.
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:And just watch the redemption.
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:Watch how it changes your life.
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:I can't wait.
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:Please just like, let me know.
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:Send me notes, send me emails, let me
know, um, how it's changed your life.
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:So.
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:Thank you so much for being here.
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:Have a very blessed holiday, and I just
hope it's filled with joy and gratitude
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:and maybe a little bit of forgiveness.
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:God bless.
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:I.