Divorce Is Not the End: How to Grow, Heal, and Reclaim Your Joy
In this episode, Lesa shares her experiences and insights on empowering women through challenging times, particularly focused on divorce. Emphasizing the importance of amicable separations when possible, she discusses the difficulties and emotional challenges that accompany divorce. Lesa also highlights how embracing and sitting with your sadness, alongside maintaining gratitude, can lead to personal growth and a better future. She encourages listeners to see divorce as an opportunity for change and improvement, and offers her support through consultations to help navigate these hard times. Additionally, she introduces an upcoming guest, Tammy Wallensak, who will share her inspiring story of overcoming adversity.
00:00 Introduction and Personal Update
00:08 Empowering Women and Divorce Consultations
01:44 Challenges in Amicable Divorces
02:54 Embracing and Processing Sadness
03:57 Gratitude and Personal Growth
04:14 Advice for Married Couples and Parents
07:01 Raising Resilient Children
08:00 Hope and Responsibility in Hard Times
08:50 Conclusion and Upcoming Episodes
Transcript
Welcome listeners.
2
:I just wanted to pop into doing Divorce
different and see how y'all were doing.
3
:I'm spending a lot of time in Saddle
Up live these days helping women, feel
4
:more empowered, helping 'em through
menopause stuff, but I'm still doing
5
:my divorces because I still wanna help
people and I wanna help you through
6
:hard times It's hard to not, I'm
sitting here in my whimsy sweatshirt
7
:because I got to spend a couple of days
with Bob Goff, who's an amazing man.
8
:If you don't know him, look
him up, but he'll make you feel
9
:loved and happy and inspired.
10
:I flew in last night and I'm sitting
in my barn and I had a early consult
11
:Darling, I just wanna let you know, I know
not everyone can do a divorce amicably,
12
:but I have the most precious clients.
13
:Those are the only clients that
I work with, and I will help you
14
:if you need help and you can't do
it because there are times when
15
:you can't work together for one.
16
:You both have to agree to work together.
17
:It's voluntary, and so if
one person doesn't wanna do
18
:it, you don't have a choice.
19
:you can be as amicable as
you can, but you're probably
20
:gonna have to hire attorneys.
21
:the clients that come to me for
consultations, and I'm telling you,
22
:you can go to my website, schedule a
consultation with me, no matter what
23
:state you're in, and I will help you.
24
:I will talk you through your options.
25
:I won't be giving out a lot of legal
information from other states, but I
26
:can give you general information and
I can help you get your feet down the
27
:right path, for options that you have.
28
:So here's the deal.
29
:You probably can't work together if one
of you is a narcissist or just a jerk.
30
:you can't probably work together
if one person feels like they don't
31
:have a voice and they're overpowered.
32
:But if you're two fairly decent people
who are willing to work together through
33
:a divorce, please take a stab at it.
34
:I will hold your hand.
35
:Whether you are working with me through
the divorce or if you're working
36
:with a mediator in another state or
divorce attorneys, I want to help you
37
:figure out what your true values are.
38
:And I know I say this I should give
it credit to someone, but where
39
:you end one thing or how you end
one thing is how you begin another.
40
:If you can end your marriage
on a high note baby, you're
41
:gonna go into that next phase.
42
:Way better off.
43
:This doesn't mean that it's.
44
:Not hard and that you're
gonna suffer and I hate it.
45
:People.
46
:I have spent my life and I mean,
I raised my poor children trying
47
:to keep them from feeling pain.
48
:I wanted to help people through divorce
so they wouldn't have to suffer.
49
:I.
50
:And then I got hit over the head with
something that was suffering and I
51
:had to learn how to deal with it.
52
:And you know what I did?
53
:I had to sit in it and I thought I had
all this self-coaching, and truly that
54
:did help me that I had done all that work.
55
:But truly, it took a long, long time of
just sitting with the sadness and then.
56
:As I sat with that sadness, so like
you guys, if you're maybe sad that your
57
:spouse wants a divorce or sad, just sad
that you are asking for the divorce and
58
:you're hurting someone, just sit in it and
feel it and don't put a timeframe on it.
59
:I don't know how long it's gonna take you,
but I do want you to be open to blessings.
60
:So that gratitude stuff,
that's not a joke.
61
:Like being thankful for what you have.
62
:Everybody has something
to be thankful for.
63
:If you have a pillow under your
head at night, relish that focus.
64
:Start focusing on that.
65
:I want this.
66
:I want you to stay married if you can.
67
:You know that I believe in marriage.
68
:I've been married to
Johnny Cakes for 34 years.
69
:I want you to stay married
if you can, and if you can't.
70
:I want you to keep a loving, I want
you to forgive because it's gonna help
71
:you, and I want you to use this as an
opportunity because I did, I used my
72
:really hard thing as an opportunity
to a better life, and now I kind of
73
:get to feel like, like remember when
you were a kid and you went to summer
74
:camp and you ran around and played
with a bunch of kids and it was fun.
75
:I'm starting to feel that again.
76
:I'm starting to let go of the
people pleasing and, doing
77
:things just 'cause they're fun.
78
:And so I want you to have that hope.
79
:If you are sitting dreading where
you are right now, hang in there.
80
:Love yourself because you know what?
81
:You are precious and you are
loved, and you are so worth worthy.
82
:You are worthy of all the good things
and you've got dreams in your head,
83
:and they might, may not match what,
what this world's dreams are for you.
84
:But you hold on to that and
you use this as an opportunity.
85
:Use it as an opportunity to grow.
86
:Think of going through something difficult
like this is going to teach you so much
87
:about how to communicate with someone,
how to go through something hard with
88
:someone you maybe don't like very much.
89
:How to do it a better way.
90
:And you know what?
91
:Maybe you're gonna turn
around and help other people.
92
:If people can watch how you do
this differently, how you do
93
:your divorce differently, you
could start to change the world.
94
:Especially if you have children,
they are going to be watching you
95
:Are you kidding me?
96
:Who wants their parents to get divorced?
97
:No one, no one does.
98
:I mean, I don't know.
99
:I shouldn't say that.
100
:I have met people where there's like
abusive situations and they were so
101
:proud of their other parent for leaving
and moving on because it gave, it gave
102
:everyone a, you know, it was courageous.
103
:So I can't say that, but
in most situations, yeah,
104
:your kids are gonna suffer.
105
:Their lives are gonna change.
106
:And you know what?
107
:They didn't ask for it either.
108
:but.
109
:that does not mean that they
cannot reap a benefit from this.
110
:Let them sit with their feelings
and watch them and love them.
111
:And if you can both stay together, loving
them and working together as parents,
112
:that is what's gonna help them the most.
113
:your kids.
114
:Get to learn at an early age how
to go through something hard, and
115
:they get to watch you go through
something hard and observe it.
116
:And if you can be open to them and letting
them feel their feelings and helping them
117
:have gratitude and see opportunities.
118
:You may just raise the most amazing,
resilient children out there.
119
:And it doesn't mean that they're not
going to have good relationships.
120
:You are gonna start showing them right
now how to have good relationships,
121
:how to set up boundaries, how
to live a full, joyful life.
122
:So I can't take away the suffering
that you're gonna go through.
123
:And I wish that I could, but I can't.
124
:I kind of don't want to because
it's what's going to help you
125
:grow, and that's what I want.
126
:I want you to have a
better life after this.
127
:So I do want to give you hope
because you have the opportunity
128
:to use this for good and you can.
129
:It's up to you.
130
:This is your responsibility.
131
:You can spin out and wallow.
132
:Or you can use it as an opportunity.
133
:And I have, when I said cement out,
when I went through my really hard,
134
:I had to go on anxiety medication.
135
:I'm not, I'm saying you do
whatever you need to do.
136
:It doesn't mean that.
137
:And, and of course I did surrender
to God and that that made all
138
:the difference in my entire life
to just trust him and let it go.
139
:So you, you do what you need to do.
140
:To make this an opportunity
to a better life.
141
:And then I want you to get ahold
of me, and I wanna have you on
142
:this podcast so that you can
share what you've gone through.
143
:In fact, next week
we've got, Tammy Wallen.
144
:Zach coming on.
145
:This is a really quick episode.
146
:The next week will be longer.
147
:she's gonna share.
148
:Her life and she did it a better way,
and she's doing amazing and you can too.
149
:So never give up on your hope
and know that you are loved.
150
:And if you need me, you can find me.
151
:Go to lisa koski.com.
152
:Just hit start here.
153
:Just schedule a consult.
154
:If you wanna chat with me for 30
minutes, I'm here for you and I
155
:wanna help you so you take good care.