Hormones, Metabolism & Midlife Health: How to Thrive Naturally with Functional Medicine Expert Marrie Simpson

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Welcome listeners.

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I am always excited to have

my darling friend, my prayer

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warrior Marie Simpson with us.

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She is my functional health

practitioner that I love.

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And you know what was funny?

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I was telling Marie before we got

on, usually when I do this podcast,

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I, I let people tell their authentic

story and I was watching something.

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On Marie, a different video, a side

video, and I'm like, I've never

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had her do that on the podcast

and your story, it helps people.

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It helps people learn.

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You know, when you go through something

difficult and you learn from it and

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you share it, you share that story.

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That's how we encourage

and change the world.

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And so I just wanna take a little

time to get to know Marie better.

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We're gonna do that first, but just so

you know, this episode you are gonna

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love 'cause it's all about hormones.

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We're gonna talk, touch a little bit

on perimenopause and menopause and

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then um, we're gonna talk about what

we can do kind of naturally, right?

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Without hormone replacement meds.

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Then we're gonna delve into how do you

know when it's time or if it's necessary.

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And Marie can help us with all of that.

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And I just wanna add one more thing that

all of this is really hard to talk about.

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I feel like when we don't

talk about metabolic.

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Fitness, metabolic health, and Marie

has taught me so much about that.

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So listeners, I do have another episode,

but what I want you to know is when I

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do my saddle up segment on Thursday, I'm

going to go through what I've learned

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from Marie briefly about metabolic health.

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And if you are interested, I have.

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How to connect with

Marie in my show notes.

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It's even on my website.

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Or you can just, I'll put her

website on in my show notes too.

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So that was a really long introduction,

but Marie, thank you so much for being

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here, for taking the time and welcome,

and let's get to know you a little better.

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What led you to do this

Phenomenal work for people.

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Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank

you so much for having me.

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I always love.

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Being on your podcast and so appreciate

you and right back at you with all

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those beautiful things you said about

me because you are just a, just a

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sweetheart and a prayer for me as well.

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So, um, so I started in medicine.

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I always love helping people and, and

so I knew that I wanted to go into

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medicine, always interested in it.

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I love, love, love learning, and so.

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I became a physician assistant back in

: 1992

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in a nursing home for years before that

and just always kind of in that area.

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Um, practiced family practice for a

number of years, but I just was like,

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wow, I am putting people on prescriptions.

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I have 10 minute visits.

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We are not getting at the rut, and I

thought there has to be something more.

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I don't wanna just keep

doling out prescriptions.

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And so started in functional medicine.

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It took me a while to get my, um,

certification in functional medicine,

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probably about seven, eight years.

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But I started, started

in hormones actually.

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Uh, and then just kept going

deeper and deeper and deeper

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with autoimmune conditions.

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Uh, I spent some time under Dr.

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Dale Breon, who wrote

the book, the End of.

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Alzheimer's, he's had a couple subsequent

books, but really looking at how

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do we prevent disease and how do we

prevent the need for prescriptions?

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And I use this analogy all the time.

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Bad, better, best, bad, doing nothing.

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Okay?

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So we don't wanna have high

blood pressure and not treat it.

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We don't wanna have high

blood sugar and not treat it.

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We want to understand what we have

and if we can prevent the need for

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medication, that's gonna be best.

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But better is gonna be

that we use medication.

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So medications are indicated.

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Uh, and we definitely feel, I feel that

traditional medicine has its place, but.

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It doesn't do the best job at disease

prevention at increasing our health span.

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So I started in functional medicine,

uh, and I wasn't the healthiest, but

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I started implementing many, many

things I've been overweight for since,

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since actually I was a kid and didn't

get to do the things I wanted to be,

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uh, in pom-poms and cheerleading.

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But, you know, my weight really

held me back in a lot of areas.

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So became had difficulty getting pregnant

because of my weight, because of PCOS.

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I had a diagnosis of fibromyalgia.

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I had many, many symptoms.

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Again, the hormone imbalance.

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I had chronic achiness

and pain, I had insomnia.

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The list was long.

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I started addressing all of these things

from a functional medicine approach,

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uh, as I learned functional medicine

and how to do things, but my weight

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would not, my, it was, I just was stuck.

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I had tried hundreds, literally

hundreds of things, whether it

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was, you know, diet and exercise.

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I would maybe eat 500 calories a day

and I would exercise three or four

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hours thinking if I just worked harder.

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Yes.

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Then the weight's gonna come off and.

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And after I started my own practice,

um, I, I left the clinic practice in

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about four and a half years ago and

started Elevate Health and Wellness,

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which is what I work under right now.

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Then I went through a program

myself that was really helpful.

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It didn't have the functional medicine

aspects, but it was helpful for losing

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weight, really training your body on

how to detox, how to, um, optimize.

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Fat burning.

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How to really support the body through

the process because we know that

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toxins are stored in fat, and so as we

are working on burning fat for fuel,

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we are going through detoxification.

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Also, focusing on balancing hormones and

optimizing energy, and really getting at

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the root of so many pieces, looking at gut

health, looking at brain fog, looking at.

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Autoimmune conditions and all of that,

just all bringing lots of pieces into it.

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So I've created my own version of

this with genetics with continuous

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glucose monitors, because these pieces

really help give us understanding of

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what's going on behind the scenes.

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Our body gives us clues whether

you have digestive issues, whether

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you've had a diagnosis of cancer

that is a clue about immune health,

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whether you have, uh, brain fog.

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All these pieces are are clues.

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And so we put that detective hat

on and we think, okay, what's

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going on behind the scenes?

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And then we look at.

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Labs, the continuous glucose

monitors give us information.

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Genetics help me personalize

fine tune what recommendations

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that I would typically have.

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And so over the course of the

last four years, I've continually

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added and developed the 12 week

program for what it is today.

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And it was my personal transformation.

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It was learning all of the pieces

that, uh, can keep people stuck.

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And it isn't a one size

fits all as we know, right.

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So that and a coupled with my dad

and my dad started becoming ill.

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15 years ago and he had diabetes and he

started gaining weight around the middle.

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Um, but then came the tremors, it

came some personality changes, uh,

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frequent falls, and eventually he

was diagnosed with Parkinson's.

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And that really helped me.

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And that's around that time

I was doing the, uh, brain.

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Optimization with Dr.

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Dale Bredesen's training and really

looking into what is going on with my dad

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and come to find out that we know 88% of

all chronic illness comes from a metabolic

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disorder, and he certainly had that.

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He had the weight around the

middle, he had the diabetes, and

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so just kind of working along.

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We have managed to halt progression

for many, many years, and now

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as he's now in his eighties.

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Um, 84 to be exact.

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We've, we've, we've seen continued

progression and he has good days and

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bad days, but he is a hundred percent

rely reliant on other people to care for

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him with eating, with, walking, with,

caring for any, anything that he needs.

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It's based on somebody

else, uh, caring for him.

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So his health span was cut way too short.

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We know the average lifespan is.

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77, uh, and the average health span is 65.

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So it's like, what are we gonna

do with that last 10 to 12 years?

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Uh, and we wanna, we wanna lengthen

lifespan and lengthen health span mm-hmm.

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So that people don't have to suffer.

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Like I see so many people do.

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So, all right.

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Speaker: Too long.

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I know men that, I love that.

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I love learning that about you.

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And that is why you're the

amazing woman that you are.

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Oh, thank you.

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Because you've, thank you.

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You've learned and you share it.

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And, and that's what we need.

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That's what we all need, need to

do, is share the things we learned.

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So I have so many questions popping up.

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One thing I wanted to mention mm-hmm.

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That I've heard you say before is

it's important to know our why.

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So we're sitting here today and.

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As a woman, you know, I know

my why is I wanna feel better.

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Mm-hmm.

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I want to grab my grandchildren, pick

'em up, carry 'em down the street.

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I wanna run, I wanna

play, I wanna feel good.

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And so, and there is a part of it

that I kind, I wanna look good, but I

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think even more is, I wanna feel good

now at this stage in my life, but.

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Here's the thing that so many

women my age, and I didn't even

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think I was gonna mention this, but

it kind of goes along with this.

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Mm-hmm.

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They're like, oh my gosh,

why I've gained weight.

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Women who have remained at a steady,

great weight all their life, and

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all of a sudden they're like.

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What is going on.

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Mm-hmm.

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Why am I suddenly like I can't

do anything and I've been there.

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Mm-hmm.

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I have been there when I

couldn't really do anything.

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So those, and I wasn't obese and it

wasn't a big deal, but it does me

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being five pounds more than I need

to be affects my blood pressure.

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Mm-hmm.

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So learning the how to be

metabolically fit changed my life too.

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Mm-hmm.

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And you helped with that.

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So let's talk about that.

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Is that hormone related that

suddenly we wake up and we go.

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Everything that I used to do isn't

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Speaker 2: working.

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You know, it's, it's, it is

hormones and it's more than that.

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Uh, I feel that the modern conveniences

of life have, have increased that

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propensity for weight gain just because.

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We're in front of screens, we're rushing

around and like you, I have 10 grandkids.

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I have aging parents, I have

three kids, I have a husband.

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I'm running a business,

and things get kinda crazy.

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And so I know it's really important

that we manage that cortisol because

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when cortisol goes up and oftentimes

it's really, you know, we're gonna see

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blood sugar elevation, which is gonna

have influence on metabolic health,

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but that that cortisol elevation will

completely override our sex hormones.

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So that's one piece.

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The other piece is we're not moving

as much, and so we know that muscle

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will deteriorate after the ages of 30.

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We start to lose about

three to 8% of our muscle.

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And it depends on the person, right?

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Um, and so as our muscle goes down,

our metabolic, you know, activity slows

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and we can start to see weight gain.

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Uh, so that's, that's a piece.

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So cortisol elevation.

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Lack of muscle and, and muscle tone,

muscle strength, lack of sleep.

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Mm-hmm.

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So if we're in front of screens and we're

stressed, we often don't sleep as well.

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That has a big impact on.

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A cortisol, but also on our metabolic

health and just our nutrition.

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Yeah, our nutrition is foundational.

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It's a foundational pillar, and so when

we're stressed and tired, we may not feel

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like cooking those veggies and getting.

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Clean healthy meals, right?

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Nutrient dense meals.

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And so those are other pieces.

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When our estrogen starts to decline

and our progesterone, particularly our

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pres progesterone first, then we, we

can have estrogen dominance and that

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also can have a tendency to increase.

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And so there's just all these

little pieces that add, it's,

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it's like a puzzle of Right.

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10, 15 pieces that add to that.

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Speaker: Mm-hmm.

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Well, okay, so let's talk a

little bit, I don't like, I think

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most people kind of know what

perimenopause is and what menopause is.

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Mm-hmm.

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But when you were just

saying that the estrogen.

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Increases.

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Is that per, is that perimenopause

that that happens or more Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: perimenopause, we're gonna

see progesterone start to decline

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first, and when that declines, we have

more incidents of estrogen dominance.

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We see perimenopause in the late thirties

and, and typically in the forties.

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And it's not that hormones are just like.

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Going down, down, down,

it's, we're seeing shifts.

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We're seeing things that are up and down.

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Progesterone is the hormone that we

see decline first, and so we wanna have

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estrogen and progesterone balanced.

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But if we're seeing a decline

in progesterone and estrogen

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staying high, that creates.

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Estrogen dominance, so having too much

estrogen and too little progesterone,

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and that in and of itself can cause

heavier periods, maybe fibroids.

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Mm-hmm.

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Dense breast tissue.

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PMS, those are some of the common.

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Signs of tro, I think I have all

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Speaker: those.

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Speaker 2: And we can see that

even before perimenopause.

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I see that in a lot of individuals

and we have synthetic estrogens

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that people can get exposed to

that will also compound that.

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Mm-hmm.

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And so we wanna be careful around,

you know, plastics and receipts

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and, and different things like that

are, are personal care products.

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Mm-hmm.

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That can have that influence on the

synthetic estrogens, uh, as well.

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So.

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Speaker: Okay.

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That's good to know.

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I dunno if that

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Speaker 2: answers your question.

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Speaker: No, it does.

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And, and that kind of

talks about perimenopause.

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Mm-hmm.

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So then, and, and when you talk

about like not sleeping as well.

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Mm-hmm.

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So then I went, ding, ding.

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So your hormone then is starting to

affect your stress, your cortisol,

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'cause you're not sleeping as much.

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Mm-hmm.

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So that's playing a role too.

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So, so definitely.

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Speaker 2: progesterone is particularly.

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When we think about progesterone, that

is the hormone that is more calming.

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Yes.

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And it does help to promote good sleep.

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And so in that perimenopausal timeframe,

sometimes we'll use some bioidentical

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hormone, just progesterone before bed

to help people with that sleep and, and

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feel more calm and and type of thing.

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So it can be really helpful.

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I, in

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Speaker: fact, I did do that.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I did not have, uh, hormone cancer.

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So that is not what led, but I did do

that, and I do remember the relief I felt.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, and I was able to sleep.

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And then la la, la la la time

moved on and menopause kicks in.

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Mm-hmm.

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So tell us just really quick

what that is and then things kind

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Speaker 2: of changed again for me.

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So we define menopause as not

having a period for 12 months.

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And that's when it's kind

of typically menopause.

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And that can be rarely in

the thirties, but typically

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late forties and and fifties.

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So the average age is about 51.

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And, and with that, the estrogen

starts to decline and sometimes

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it's gonna bounce around.

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So when women go into the clinic and

they say, I wanna have my hormones

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checked, we could look at estradiol.

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Uh, but it isn't as accurate unless

we're doing a specific test where

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we're testing at a particular, um.

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Time of the month unless

you're postmenopausal.

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And so there's the main hormone that

they look at is what's called FSH.

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If we're going to be doing a

test to assess menopause in

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women that haven't had a period.

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During post menopause, then we see very

little, a little bit, but very little

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estrogen and progesterone production.

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Mm-hmm.

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And then those symptoms typically are

gonna be night sweats, hot flashes,

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vaginal dryness, lower libido,

and we can see some of these in

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that perimenopausal time For sure.

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Um.

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Sleep changes, energy changes, uh, we can

start to see a decline in bone density.

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Mm-hmm.

326

: 00:16:47

Uh, after, after the hormones, after a

period hasn't been present for a year,

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that's when typically they're gonna

recommend that women have a bone density.

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Um, just to assess kind of where

things are at, see some hair changes.

329

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Um, so those, those would

be symptoms of menopause.

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Speaker: Okay, so now what I wanna do is

I wanna talk about, and I think we've kind

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of covered it, but what are things that we

can do to ha help our hormones naturally?

332

: 00:17:17

Mm-hmm.

333

: 00:17:17

Mm-hmm.

334

: 00:17:17

And then I wanna talk about.

335

: 00:17:20

Because it is a trick to

figure out your hormone levels.

336

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Yeah.

337

: 00:17:24

And how do you know?

338

: 00:17:25

And there's all kinds of, I think there's

controversy about is it good, is it bad?

339

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And I think you really wanna catch where

you're at with those and it fluctuates.

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: 00:17:34

Mm-hmm.

341

: 00:17:34

So I wanna get into that a little bit too.

342

: 00:17:36

So what can we do, because

I can't take hormone.

343

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Mm-hmm.

344

: 00:17:40

You know, and I am on an oxygen

blocker since breast cancer.

345

: 00:17:44

Mm-hmm.

346

: 00:17:44

And I know, you know, one in eight women

might be going through what I'm going

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through, who are listening to this.

348

: 00:17:49

Mm-hmm.

349

: 00:17:49

But I just have to ask too, a

little bit for my own wellbeing.

350

: 00:17:53

Mm-hmm.

351

: 00:17:53

What can

352

: 00:17:54

Speaker 2: I do?

353

: 00:17:55

Yeah, sure.

354

: 00:17:56

Well, these are great questions

and so I'm gonna kind of try

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to answer each one of those.

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Natural ways, and that's one of the

things that I work on with women

357

: 00:18:06

in the program that I have, and

it is helping to balance hormones.

358

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And so nutrition is really important.

359

: 00:18:13

We want to, and, and for you too, Lisa,

not being able to use hormones, but being

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able to really optimize health stress

is gonna be a huge thing to manage, but

361

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then nutrition, bringing in cruciferous

vegetables is going to be helpful.

362

: 00:18:32

Whether you're on hormones or not,

genetics is gonna give us a clue

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about how we metabolize estrogen.

364

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Uh, and then you mentioned some testing.

365

: 00:18:41

I recommend Dutch hormone testing

because we're gonna look at, you

366

: 00:18:44

know, a, where those hormone levels

are, but then also and, and also

367

: 00:18:49

cortisol 'cause that is gonna have

an influence on our sex hormones.

368

: 00:18:52

The other piece that it looks at is.

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Metabolites.

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: 00:18:56

And when we have estrogen, whether

it's in our being made by our our

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ovaries, or we're using a bioidentical

form of estradiol, then we wanna

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make sure that it's safe, right?

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: 00:19:08

Speaker: Mm-hmm.

374

: 00:19:08

Speaker 2: Again, whether it's our

body producing it or it is, um.

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: 00:19:14

It is being given.

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: 00:19:15

And so we can look to see how

your body is metabolizing it,

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: 00:19:19

genetics influence that from the

standpoint of detox and methylation.

378

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I know we're, I don't wanna get

too sciencey, but we wanna look to

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make sure that it's going down the

right pathway and not producing

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metabolites that would increase risk.

381

: 00:19:34

For in men it would be prostate

cancer and in women breast cancer.

382

: 00:19:37

Right.

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Or potentially ovarian.

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And so if people are gonna consider using.

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Hormone replacement therapy, it's

ideal to use that in the first 10.

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: 00:19:46

10.

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: 00:19:47

Within the first 10 years, it's gonna

have a much more impact on brain health,

388

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cardiovascular health, bone health.

389

: 00:19:53

Just overall, when we start it later than

that, it doesn't have as much benefit.

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: 00:19:58

Okay.

391

: 00:19:58

But the, but the key is we want to

look at each woman individually.

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: 00:20:04

Mm-hmm.

393

: 00:20:04

And see what their risk factors are.

394

: 00:20:06

What is their metabolic health like?

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Because we know that if.

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Metabolic health is not good.

397

: 00:20:12

We increase risk for cancers, not

just breast, but other cancers.

398

: 00:20:16

Right?

399

: 00:20:16

We wanna look at genetic pieces

to see, are you methylating?

400

: 00:20:19

Well, what are your detox pathways?

401

: 00:20:22

Right?

402

: 00:20:22

And we wanna look at history.

403

: 00:20:24

Do you have that history of

estrogen dominance where you

404

: 00:20:27

had dense breast tissue, you had

fibroids, you had heavy periods.

405

: 00:20:30

You had PMS.

406

: 00:20:31

Mm-hmm.

407

: 00:20:31

All of these other pieces, because if you

have that in your history, it can give

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: 00:20:34

us clues about what risks you may have.

409

: 00:20:38

In using bioidentical hormone therapy.

410

: 00:20:41

So we wanna take each individual and,

and kinda look at all of these pieces

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: 00:20:46

answering the thing that we can do

from what can we do from a natural

412

: 00:20:50

standpoint, it is gonna be Whole Foods.

413

: 00:20:54

Healthy fats, adequate protein, getting

in movement, managing cortisol, managing

414

: 00:21:01

stress, um, and we know that alcohol

will raise aromatase and that then

415

: 00:21:08

can increase risk of breast cancer.

416

: 00:21:10

And so if women are using, you know, more

than maybe a glass of wine a week, it's,

417

: 00:21:17

we wanna be very cautious with that.

418

: 00:21:20

Uh, and then.

419

: 00:21:21

Also if women are going to use hormones,

and I do bioidentical hormone therapy

420

: 00:21:26

myself, uh, I test, you know, we

get tests done, but then also I use

421

: 00:21:32

some products that are gonna really

help with that methylation piece.

422

: 00:21:36

So there's a couple

supplements to bring in.

423

: 00:21:38

And even in individuals that

aren't using hormones, if there

424

: 00:21:41

are symptoms of estrogen dominance,

then they can be very helpful.

425

: 00:21:44

So, right.

426

: 00:21:45

I, I, I think I kept going,

427

: 00:21:47

Speaker: no, I love that.

428

: 00:21:48

And this is what I wanna jump in and say.

429

: 00:21:51

Yeah, because.

430

: 00:21:51

I know that if I were sitting

here listening who I am,

431

: 00:21:55

I would wanna know more.

432

: 00:21:57

I would wanna get this done.

433

: 00:21:58

I wanna get it.

434

: 00:21:58

I would wanna, I would wanna

figure this out, and this is what

435

: 00:22:01

I want the listeners to know.

436

: 00:22:03

Mm-hmm.

437

: 00:22:03

Marie is here for you.

438

: 00:22:04

Yeah.

439

: 00:22:05

So connect with her because.

440

: 00:22:08

That is how you're going to have

someone who can scientifically look

441

: 00:22:12

at your body, and I've done it.

442

: 00:22:14

Look at your gene, look at is this

safe for you to use this hormone?

443

: 00:22:19

Would it be beneficial?

444

: 00:22:21

Mm-hmm.

445

: 00:22:21

And I kinda like hearing,

I think I'm almost 10 years

446

: 00:22:24

out of, you know what I mean?

447

: 00:22:26

So maybe, and I did do a little

bit of hormone therapy, so maybe

448

: 00:22:30

I did it at really the right time

and that was all that I needed.

449

: 00:22:34

Mm-hmm.

450

: 00:22:34

Mm-hmm.

451

: 00:22:34

But that's what, I don't want this

because we're throwing out a lot of tests.

452

: 00:22:37

And things, what I want you to know is

Marie can lead you and she's led me to

453

: 00:22:43

which test works and, and she can learn

about it and then you so beautifully

454

: 00:22:50

will share what supplements work.

455

: 00:22:53

You give us, you know, links to

a great place to get them where

456

: 00:22:56

we maybe save a little bit of

money on a high quality product.

457

: 00:23:00

So this doesn't have to sound

overwhelming or scary, right?

458

: 00:23:04

It is for you to just

investigate, do it for yourself.

459

: 00:23:08

Because in order for you to be there

for all the other people in your

460

: 00:23:12

world, you gotta take care of yourself.

461

: 00:23:14

Mm-hmm.

462

: 00:23:15

And Marie, I think what's so interesting

is I did all of this except there were.

463

: 00:23:20

Two pieces in my journey that I

was missing and one was, thank you

464

: 00:23:25

for talking about wine, because

I had my breast surgeon on who

465

: 00:23:29

has a private breast center.

466

: 00:23:31

Mm-hmm.

467

: 00:23:32

She said, wine, alcohol

causes breast cancer.

468

: 00:23:37

Mm-hmm.

469

: 00:23:37

And she actually said, Marie, that the

surgeon general before the one we have

470

: 00:23:41

now, wanted to put that on every alcohol.

471

: 00:23:45

Mm-hmm.

472

: 00:23:45

Bottle so that women who just like

cigarettes say, this causes lung cancer,

473

: 00:23:50

and for some reason it didn't happen.

474

: 00:23:52

That's a big deal.

475

: 00:23:53

And do you know?

476

: 00:23:54

Mm-hmm.

477

: 00:23:54

I grew up in the era of.

478

: 00:23:56

I'd be stressed out all day, you know,

working with the kids and then I'd

479

: 00:24:00

take my glass of wine to calm down.

480

: 00:24:02

That was the wor.

481

: 00:24:03

And I, like almost every night

would have a glass of wine.

482

: 00:24:06

I wasn't a drunk, but that wasn't

healthy and I didn't feel good.

483

: 00:24:10

Yeah, I didn't feel good.

484

: 00:24:11

But every night I'd do it again

because I was like, oh, I'm, you

485

: 00:24:14

feel good for maybe 20, 30 minutes.

486

: 00:24:16

Yes.

487

: 00:24:17

So the piece, so I was, and I think I was

maybe white knuckling it a little bit.

488

: 00:24:20

Well, I better fast this long.

489

: 00:24:22

I gotta work out this hard.

490

: 00:24:23

Yes.

491

: 00:24:23

And what I learned.

492

: 00:24:25

I made it through chemo

beautifully because I chilled out.

493

: 00:24:30

Yeah.

494

: 00:24:30

I ate well.

495

: 00:24:31

I went on walks, I lifted at home.

496

: 00:24:33

I didn't kill myself.

497

: 00:24:35

Mm-hmm.

498

: 00:24:35

And I was so, I became so fit.

499

: 00:24:38

So that's like a lesson

that we can all hold onto.

500

: 00:24:41

So I just had to jump in and

say Maur bottle that she's

501

: 00:24:44

Speaker 2: helped me.

502

: 00:24:46

Yeah, no, and that's so true.

503

: 00:24:48

And it, it is hard because I feel that

a lot of our social events are based

504

: 00:24:52

around alcohol and not all, but many are.

505

: 00:24:55

Yes.

506

: 00:24:56

And I feel that it has

become this in, um, society.

507

: 00:25:01

So, and it is something that I, I also.

508

: 00:25:05

Was doing and, and actually the

Lord has said, Hey, you know what?

509

: 00:25:09

This is not what I have

for you and mm-hmm.

510

: 00:25:11

And I recognize that.

511

: 00:25:14

I wasn't getting drunk and what have

you, but just, just being reliant on it.

512

: 00:25:18

Oh man.

513

: 00:25:18

Yeah.

514

: 00:25:18

This has been a stressful day.

515

: 00:25:19

I, I wanna have a glass

of wine when I get home.

516

: 00:25:21

Yeah.

517

: 00:25:21

Or choosing the restaurant I wanna

go to because this is, you know.

518

: 00:25:24

Yeah.

519

: 00:25:25

And it, and I don't wanna

have anything control me.

520

: 00:25:28

And I felt that it was controlling me.

521

: 00:25:30

And so just praying to say,

Lord, take away those desires.

522

: 00:25:33

Yes.

523

: 00:25:33

Uh, and fill those with

desires for things of you.

524

: 00:25:37

And if you want me to step away

from this, I know it can be.

525

: 00:25:41

Uh, not in my own strength.

526

: 00:25:42

And that's, yeah, it was a prayer

for a long time for me, but I do feel

527

: 00:25:47

confident that's what he wanted for me.

528

: 00:25:49

And, and when you mentioned earlier

about the whole why, my, why kids

529

: 00:25:57

and my grandkids, I wanna chase them.

530

: 00:25:58

I wanna run with them.

531

: 00:25:59

I wanna, yeah.

532

: 00:26:00

You know, go skiing with them in the,

in the winter and I want to slide and,

533

: 00:26:03

and whatever, but it's, I want women

to know that their bodies can heal.

534

: 00:26:08

That is my biggest thing.

535

: 00:26:09

Yeah.

536

: 00:26:10

And I want them to know that.

537

: 00:26:12

They were created for purpose and, and it

isn't to be sick and, and to just settle.

538

: 00:26:19

Yes.

539

: 00:26:20

You, and, and it isn't about

medications and supplements.

540

: 00:26:24

Sure.

541

: 00:26:25

They're gonna play a little bit of a

role, but it's about these foundational

542

: 00:26:28

pillars that we can put in place and just

little steps here and there and there

543

: 00:26:35

that we can start that healing process.

544

: 00:26:37

Yeah.

545

: 00:26:37

Um, and so that's my why.

546

: 00:26:40

I want women to know that they

can feel good, that they can heal.

547

: 00:26:45

And with all of that knowledge

out there, I mean, it's just like,

548

: 00:26:48

oh my gosh, everywhere you turn,

it's this, this, this, this, this.

549

: 00:26:51

Mm-hmm.

550

: 00:26:51

Like, there's a lot of confusion,

but when we pause and we listen

551

: 00:26:55

to what the body's telling us

552

: 00:26:57

Speaker: mm-hmm.

553

: 00:26:57

Speaker 2: What's our gut like?

554

: 00:26:58

What's our brain like?

555

: 00:26:59

Yes.

556

: 00:26:59

What's our, you know, all

of these pieces, then we can

557

: 00:27:03

start learning what's going on.

558

: 00:27:04

And that's what functional

medicine is all about, is looking

559

: 00:27:08

at the root rather than Okay.

560

: 00:27:10

Take this, take that.

561

: 00:27:11

Take this.

562

: 00:27:12

Yes.

563

: 00:27:12

So at any rate.

564

: 00:27:14

That's, I love that.

565

: 00:27:14

And

566

: 00:27:15

Speaker: we're all unique, we're all

unique individuals, so every one of us

567

: 00:27:20

is going to need something different.

568

: 00:27:23

Mm-hmm.

569

: 00:27:23

Not like, you know, here you go,

let me give you the same dose.

570

: 00:27:27

I give this, you know, 400

pound man, it's like, what?

571

: 00:27:31

Like my husband and I go, he's

like almost twice my size.

572

: 00:27:34

Mm-hmm.

573

: 00:27:35

I mean, he used to be, now it's probably,

I'm getting a little closer, but No.

574

: 00:27:39

You know, and then we'll get like

a a, a dosage that's the same.

575

: 00:27:43

Of Advil or whatever.

576

: 00:27:44

They tell us to take the same amount.

577

: 00:27:46

I'm like, okay, that's right.

578

: 00:27:47

That's just bananas.

579

: 00:27:48

So I, I love, that's why I love working

with you because it is so individual

580

: 00:27:53

and you're really looking at me and,

and I think, you know, for those of us

581

: 00:27:59

out there, it, that is where it starts.

582

: 00:28:01

Listen to your body.

583

: 00:28:03

Mm-hmm.

584

: 00:28:03

Listen to yourself,

because you're gonna learn.

585

: 00:28:05

You can be a little

detective and learn a lot.

586

: 00:28:07

Mm-hmm.

587

: 00:28:07

Even without the test.

588

: 00:28:09

For sure.

589

: 00:28:10

Yep, for

590

: 00:28:10

Speaker 2: sure.

591

: 00:28:10

That is the number one place to start

is getting a really good history,

592

: 00:28:14

understanding what were your periods

like, even if you are postmenopausal,

593

: 00:28:18

what were they like before?

594

: 00:28:20

Speaker: Right?

595

: 00:28:20

Did

596

: 00:28:20

Speaker 2: women have miscarriages?

597

: 00:28:21

That gives us a clue where?

598

: 00:28:23

Where does your mammogram show

dense fiber glandular tissue?

599

: 00:28:26

That gives us a clue.

600

: 00:28:28

I mean, all of these pieces give us

clues, and then looking at traditional

601

: 00:28:31

labs that your practitioner may order.

602

: 00:28:35

That isn't necessarily where optimal is.

603

: 00:28:37

For instance, we talked a little bit

about metabolic health before We wanna

604

: 00:28:40

see a fasting blood sugar under 84.

605

: 00:28:42

Speaker: Yeah.

606

: 00:28:43

Speaker 2: We, you know, I see so

many times where blood sugars are like

607

: 00:28:46

ninety nine, a hundred and ten and

it's like, well, okay, we'll check

608

: 00:28:51

it again in six months or a year.

609

: 00:28:52

And it's like, we don't wanna wait.

610

: 00:28:55

Again, we know that 88% of

chronic illnesses from metabolic

611

: 00:28:58

health, we wanna nip that in

the butt and get after it soon.

612

: 00:29:01

So, um, knowing what those

normal parameters versus what is

613

: 00:29:05

optimal can be really helpful.

614

: 00:29:07

So, yep.

615

: 00:29:08

Speaker: Okay.

616

: 00:29:08

Now we're almost running outta time.

617

: 00:29:10

Yeah.

618

: 00:29:10

But you have to ask one more little

thing, because you mentioned that

619

: 00:29:14

you use hormone replacement therapy.

620

: 00:29:16

Mm-hmm.

621

: 00:29:17

Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

622

: 00:29:17

Speaker: So.

623

: 00:29:19

When is it appropriate?

624

: 00:29:21

And I know it, it is like, uh,

dependent on the individual.

625

: 00:29:24

Mm-hmm.

626

: 00:29:24

But when would that be a a, an appropriate

627

: 00:29:27

Speaker 2: mm-hmm.

628

: 00:29:27

Speaker: For someone to get on

bioidenticals or, or mm-hmm.

629

: 00:29:31

Or what have you.

630

: 00:29:32

Speaker 2: I think looking, uh, I think

early on, if we're gonna use hormones

631

: 00:29:36

again, we're gonna have much more

benefit if we start them within 10 years.

632

: 00:29:40

Yeah.

633

: 00:29:41

If women are.

634

: 00:29:43

Having significant, and a lot of

times when I was working in the

635

: 00:29:47

clinic practice, it would be like

night sweats and hot flashes.

636

: 00:29:49

That would be the driver of people

using hormones, and I think that

637

: 00:29:53

it certainly is helpful when I

have women go through the program.

638

: 00:29:59

When we start working together,

we can put together pieces.

639

: 00:30:04

And I already alluded to the,

the nutritional aspects mm-hmm.

640

: 00:30:08

And the, um, alcohol being one.

641

: 00:30:10

Right?

642

: 00:30:11

Yep.

643

: 00:30:11

Uh, which is, can, can be hard for people,

but then also not pushing our bodies.

644

: 00:30:17

And like you said, you know, used to go

to the gym and, and I was working out

645

: 00:30:21

so much and I wasn't seeing benefit.

646

: 00:30:24

I had night sweats.

647

: 00:30:25

Hot flashes when I was still

menstruating because I was

648

: 00:30:29

just pushing myself too much.

649

: 00:30:30

Yeah.

650

: 00:30:31

And that just makes it worse, so, so if

you're having night sweats, hot flashes,

651

: 00:30:36

sometimes people have a lot of brain fog.

652

: 00:30:38

Um,

653

: 00:30:41

I think it's then time to look at.

654

: 00:30:45

Benefits versus risks, right?

655

: 00:30:47

We wanna make sure that the benefits

outweigh the potential risks.

656

: 00:30:51

And what are those risks?

657

: 00:30:52

That's what I ask, right?

658

: 00:30:54

Most of the time, we can get night

sweats and hot flashes to resolve.

659

: 00:31:00

With natural methods.

660

: 00:31:01

And so again, stress.

661

: 00:31:04

Um, sometimes I'll use some

black koosh, sometimes rhubarb,

662

: 00:31:07

so estro vera is rhubarb.

663

: 00:31:09

That can be helpful.

664

: 00:31:10

Uh, but most of it is gonna be

lifestyle and nutritional pieces that

665

: 00:31:14

can, that can really shut down the,

um, night sweats and hot flashes.

666

: 00:31:19

So,

667

: 00:31:20

Speaker: well, and I have to say Marie.

668

: 00:31:21

Mm-hmm.

669

: 00:31:21

When.

670

: 00:31:22

So if I occasionally, like once a

month might have a glass of wine.

671

: 00:31:27

Mm-hmm.

672

: 00:31:27

I get it.

673

: 00:31:27

I start having hot mm-hmm.

674

: 00:31:29

Like hot flashes.

675

: 00:31:30

Yeah.

676

: 00:31:30

I don't ever have them unless, and

that's probably because of that estrogen.

677

: 00:31:34

So, so you're saying like, do everything

naturally that you can Yeah, I think,

678

: 00:31:40

I think that's what you're saying.

679

: 00:31:41

Speaker 2: Well I think, I think

that's, that just makes sense, right?

680

: 00:31:44

Yep.

681

: 00:31:44

To prevent disease.

682

: 00:31:45

Um, no.

683

: 00:31:48

It may be too hard for people.

684

: 00:31:50

And so then we wanna look at if people's

metabolic health, if, if their blood

685

: 00:31:54

sugars are elevated, their insulin levels

are elevated and they're using alcohol,

686

: 00:31:59

I don't think people should use hormones.

687

: 00:32:02

I don't, I don't believe they should.

688

: 00:32:04

And I, I know Naasha Winter, she wrote

the book, metabolic Approach to Cancer.

689

: 00:32:08

Yeah.

690

: 00:32:08

She would say absolutely not.

691

: 00:32:11

Um, and so that's, if we're doing the

right things, then I think that estrogen

692

: 00:32:17

replacement therapy has a place and is.

693

: 00:32:19

Definitely beneficial.

694

: 00:32:21

Mm-hmm.

695

: 00:32:21

Uh, so, and it is gonna be

helpful for bone density.

696

: 00:32:24

It is gonna be helpful for

muscle, it is gonna be helpful

697

: 00:32:26

for cardiovascular health.

698

: 00:32:27

So there is a lot of benefits, um,

to using it in the right individuals.

699

: 00:32:33

If people have strong family

history of breast cancer.

700

: 00:32:36

If we look at genetics and there's

some risks, we can mitigate those

701

: 00:32:39

risks with lifestyle in, in a

couple supplements to make it.

702

: 00:32:42

Yep.

703

: 00:32:43

Safer.

704

: 00:32:44

And so it doesn't shut

the door on it at all.

705

: 00:32:47

Um, E three is a very weak estrogen.

706

: 00:32:52

It, it's estriol.

707

: 00:32:54

And so using a little bit of E three,

um, vaginally oftentimes is acceptable.

708

: 00:33:01

And of course, it, we, I always want

you to talk with your practitioner about

709

: 00:33:04

things, um, but for vaginal health.

710

: 00:33:06

And so that would be something that,

uh, would be certainly an option.

711

: 00:33:11

For

712

: 00:33:12

Speaker: vaginal health.

713

: 00:33:12

Well, I'm gonna even like throw that in.

714

: 00:33:15

Even me, who's on the estrogen

blocker, my oncologist mm-hmm.

715

: 00:33:18

Said that.

716

: 00:33:19

That's right.

717

: 00:33:20

Speaker 2: Yeah.

718

: 00:33:20

Mm-hmm.

719

: 00:33:21

And prescribes it.

720

: 00:33:21

Yeah, sure.

721

: 00:33:22

Yeah.

722

: 00:33:22

Mm-hmm.

723

: 00:33:23

Mm-hmm.

724

: 00:33:23

Yeah.

725

: 00:33:24

So, and it's gonna depend

on, some practitioners are.

726

: 00:33:28

Not aware of the functional medicine,

integrative medicine, you know,

727

: 00:33:33

and some of those types of things.

728

: 00:33:34

And, and there are others that are, that

are practicing traditional medicine.

729

: 00:33:39

So it is helpful to have one

that has some knowledge and

730

: 00:33:42

is trained and it's not that.

731

: 00:33:45

I, I don't like those things that, you

know, they come out what your doctor

732

: 00:33:48

isn't telling you and your doctor's bad.

733

: 00:33:50

It's not that.

734

: 00:33:50

Yeah, no, it's that they're

not, they're not knowledgeable.

735

: 00:33:52

They don't, and they're knowledgeable,

but they just aren't aware of the

736

: 00:33:57

functional medicine pieces and what

we look at and how we want to address

737

: 00:34:01

things early and prevent disease

rather than waiting for it to occur.

738

: 00:34:05

So.

739

: 00:34:05

Yeah.

740

: 00:34:06

Speaker: You know, and I just have

to add before we go, I think that's,

741

: 00:34:09

so that's been so important to me.

742

: 00:34:12

And I feel like God has always led

me to physicians who are open to it.

743

: 00:34:17

Mm-hmm.

744

: 00:34:17

So that I can work with you Marie.

745

: 00:34:19

Mm-hmm.

746

: 00:34:19

And my oncologist.

747

: 00:34:21

Now my oncologist is not an a functional

assessment doctor, and I never would've

748

: 00:34:25

thought I would've gone to the U of M.

749

: 00:34:28

Mm-hmm.

750

: 00:34:28

But when I went there, she, and it's Dr.

751

: 00:34:30

Blaze, if anyone wants to know.

752

: 00:34:32

Yeah.

753

: 00:34:33

When I went to her, she looked at me.

754

: 00:34:35

Mm-hmm.

755

: 00:34:36

And she said, no, you don't need a port.

756

: 00:34:39

You know, there were

different things and Sure.

757

: 00:34:41

Some of the oncologists that I talked to

said, oh, don't cold cap for your hair.

758

: 00:34:45

It won't really work.

759

: 00:34:46

She said, cold cap for sure.

760

: 00:34:48

Mm-hmm.

761

: 00:34:48

And she said, make sure you

use ice on your hands and feet.

762

: 00:34:52

Mm-hmm.

763

: 00:34:52

So I don't have any neuropathy.

764

: 00:34:54

Do you know?

765

: 00:34:56

How rare it is for patients to

hear that from their physician.

766

: 00:35:01

Mm-hmm.

767

: 00:35:01

And so I would just like

to get that word out.

768

: 00:35:03

Like it's not, I'm on

this team or that team.

769

: 00:35:06

We're working together here.

770

: 00:35:08

Right.

771

: 00:35:08

And I feel like Right.

772

: 00:35:09

I have been blessed with those physicians

and I would really like to share that.

773

: 00:35:14

Mm-hmm.

774

: 00:35:15

With more of them share my

story, which we're hoping to do,

775

: 00:35:18

which I'm, I'm moving forward.

776

: 00:35:19

I think you should.

777

: 00:35:20

Yeah, totally.

778

: 00:35:21

Speaker 2: Women can learn so much.

779

: 00:35:23

And it is, you wanna be an

advocate for them, right?

780

: 00:35:26

Yes.

781

: 00:35:26

You've gone through it.

782

: 00:35:26

Yes.

783

: 00:35:27

So, um, yeah.

784

: 00:35:29

Speaker: Yeah.

785

: 00:35:29

I'd love you to hear that.

786

: 00:35:29

And helping those doctors

too understand Right, right.

787

: 00:35:32

How they did things right for

me and how they can do that too.

788

: 00:35:35

So.

789

: 00:35:35

Mm-hmm.

790

: 00:35:36

For all my dear friend, I've

taken up so much of your time.

791

: 00:35:38

I feel like this was so good.

792

: 00:35:40

Yeah.

793

: 00:35:41

And like there was so much information.

794

: 00:35:42

And listeners, I promise I'm gonna do

an overview on my saddle up segment

795

: 00:35:47

and I'm gonna talk about metabolic.

796

: 00:35:49

Health.

797

: 00:35:50

Mm-hmm.

798

: 00:35:50

And just go to Marie.

799

: 00:35:54

If you're ready to delve in and

you're ready to take care of you,

800

: 00:35:57

it's like the great first step.

801

: 00:35:59

So yeah.

802

: 00:36:00

Thank you so much for

being, yeah, thank you.

803

: 00:36:02

Love you.